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	<title>Comments on: Mentoring: Effectiveness for Mentors</title>
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		<title>By: Janine Lim</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. Are we &quot;mentoring&quot; just by having this conversation publicly instead of via Skype or VC? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Are we &#8220;mentoring&#8221; just by having this conversation publicly instead of via Skype or VC? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Janine Lim</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roxanne - thanks for the comment - and the story. What do you think (any of you reading) makes the difference in our understanding of &quot;teach it to me&quot; vs. &quot;learn this with me&quot;? Is it a belief about the nature of learning and knowledge? I&#039;m not sure. I&#039;ll be thinking about this more. 

I fixed that sentence above - thanks for the question. The authors were talking about the importance of perceived similarity in the context of whether the mentor felt they received a benefit from the relationship - also learned from the relationship. 

A &quot;mentoring community&quot; - it&#039;s like situated learning, isn&#039;t it? I noticed a tweet from NECC go by (can&#039;t find it now) of someone saying that we need to be focusing on teaching the newbies the tools instead of just presenting new tools each year. I thought that was interesting. How does the Web 2.0 community &quot;mentor&quot; so that instruction changes? Are there other communities out there like &quot;Jazz&quot; where teachers go away enabled to change the instruction in their classroom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roxanne &#8211; thanks for the comment &#8211; and the story. What do you think (any of you reading) makes the difference in our understanding of &#8220;teach it to me&#8221; vs. &#8220;learn this with me&#8221;? Is it a belief about the nature of learning and knowledge? I&#8217;m not sure. I&#8217;ll be thinking about this more. </p>
<p>I fixed that sentence above &#8211; thanks for the question. The authors were talking about the importance of perceived similarity in the context of whether the mentor felt they received a benefit from the relationship &#8211; also learned from the relationship. </p>
<p>A &#8220;mentoring community&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s like situated learning, isn&#8217;t it? I noticed a tweet from NECC go by (can&#8217;t find it now) of someone saying that we need to be focusing on teaching the newbies the tools instead of just presenting new tools each year. I thought that was interesting. How does the Web 2.0 community &#8220;mentor&#8221; so that instruction changes? Are there other communities out there like &#8220;Jazz&#8221; where teachers go away enabled to change the instruction in their classroom?</p>
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		<title>By: Roxanne Glaser</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your word choice for the invitation to comment is interesting, &quot;how are you learning with others?&quot; I encountered an individual in a learning environment a couple of weeks back who kept saying, &quot;No one will train me.&quot; &quot;How can I get training&quot; or other variations on the theme of someone TEACHING her. I did not hear a mention of LEARNING. I thought that was significant. 

Anyway, back to mentoring. Does this statement &quot;However, in a mentor relationship of  a longer duration, the perceived similarity is not as important.&quot; mean that the longer the relationship, the more likely that the protege will develop more significantly different characteristics/style from the mentor? 

I think your mention of Skype/Twitter leads into the mentoring community of Jazz. Is there such a thing as a &quot;mentoring community&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your word choice for the invitation to comment is interesting, &#8220;how are you learning with others?&#8221; I encountered an individual in a learning environment a couple of weeks back who kept saying, &#8220;No one will train me.&#8221; &#8220;How can I get training&#8221; or other variations on the theme of someone TEACHING her. I did not hear a mention of LEARNING. I thought that was significant. </p>
<p>Anyway, back to mentoring. Does this statement &#8220;However, in a mentor relationship of  a longer duration, the perceived similarity is not as important.&#8221; mean that the longer the relationship, the more likely that the protege will develop more significantly different characteristics/style from the mentor? </p>
<p>I think your mention of Skype/Twitter leads into the mentoring community of Jazz. Is there such a thing as a &#8220;mentoring community&#8221;?</p>
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